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Re-Enactment Of Palestinian Boy's Killing For "60 Minutes" Reportedly Flops

Foreign Affairs News Keywords: ISRAEL/PALESTINIANS
Posted on 11/07/2000 01:36:45 PST by Arky

Tuesday, November 7, 2000
Ha'aretz

By Anat Cygielman

IDF keeps shooting itself in the foot

Army efforts to interest journalists in a dubious probe of the al Dura case backfires

On Monday, October 23 the IDF staged a re-enactment of the October 1 gun battle at Netzarim junction in which 12-year-old Mohammed al Dura was killed.

Blocks were piled up at one of the army's firing ranges in the south, to simulate the wall where the boy and his father Jamal al Dura were pinned. A concrete barrel was brought in, to represent the one behind which the father and son crouched.

Soldiers sent to the firing range by the IDF Southern Commander, Major General Yom Tov Samia, stood on top of a dirt embankment and fired shots at the wall and barrel, using a variety of different weapons.

Two Israeli citizens took part in the re-enactment - Nahum Shahaf, a physicist, and Yosef Duriel, an engineer.

A film crew from the prestigious American news program "60 Minutes" was there, having been given exclusive rights to film the replay of the Dura shooting.

In the past two weeks a number of reports have circulated about new IDF findings in its investigation of the killing at Netzarim. These reports have stirred considerable interest in Israel and elsewhere, because for the Palestinians, the death of Mohammed al Dura - captured by a French television crew - has become the symbol of the Al-Aqsa Intifada.

The dramatic footage of his death has been seen in every corner of the world. Palestinian television runs an edited version - pictures of an IDF soldier shooting have been spliced into the original footage. Poignant photographs of the father and son have been plastered along the sides of roads throughout the West Bank. The Cairo newspaper Akbar al Yom has reported that the city authorities have decided to name the street where the Israeli embassy is located after Mohammed al Dura.

Shortly after the boy's death, the IDF acknowledged there was "a high probability" that IDF gunfire ended his young life and, speaking for the IDF, Deputy Chief of Staff Moshe Ya'alon expressed his sorrow over the tragedy. Assuming that the damage to Israel's reputation was irreversible, and knowing it faced the realities of more children dying, the IDF was inclined to put the al Dura matter to rest.

However, senior officers in the Southern Command were bitter about Israel's hasty decision to accept responsibility for the death. As days passed reports circulated that they were increasingly convinced IDF soldiers did not shoot and kill the boy. Shahaf and Duriel also believed the matter had been settled too quickly.

Two days after the incident, Duriel wrote in Ha'aretz: "The IDF spokesman deserves a prize for stupidity ... Ten minutes after the incident a normal spokesman for a normal army would have released a categorically formulated statement saying that provocateurs opened fire against IDF soldiers, behind the back of a the ambulance driver who tried to save him. All this was done to score propaganda points by depicting murderous behavior on the part of IDF soldiers."

After Ha'aretz published these remarks, Shahaf phoned Duriel and suggested they investigate whether it was necessarily true that IDF soldiers shot the boy. The two were acquainted - they met when they jointly reviewed Shahaf's findings on an altogether different matter, the Rabin assassination. Shahaf claims to have in his possession "dramatic photographs which change the picture with respect to Yigal Amir's involvement in the murder." Shahaf and Duriel discussed ways of disseminating these Rabin assassination materials.

With regard to Mohammed al Dura, the pair studied the angle of the shots fired by IDF men and concluded that the claims of the boy being killed by Israeli army bullets are dubious. Shahaf, who says he is a reservist in an intelligence division that deals with visual material, left a number of messages for Southern Commander Samia, asking for a meeting.

He made his initial call to the major general after learning from the media that the IDF planned to demolish structures around the Netzarim junction. He warned against "erasing" physical evidence at the site - such as the wall and concrete barrel, key pieces of evidence he wanted preserved.

He says that when Samia got back to him, it was too late to effect such evidence preservation measures.

But anyway, the Southern Commander agreed to meet Shaham and Duriel and this took place, Duriel says, on October 19. The two went over their calculations with the IDF major general and urged him to initiate a review. They offered their professional services, gratis. Shahaf emphasizes this was designed as an "impartial" inquiry. He says Samia accepted his terms - as he put it to Samia, "nobody in the army can intervene in my activity and analysis. Samia has administrative responsibility, "and I have responsibility for carrying out the project. I do the tests, I decide who should be involved in them. The army only helps me when I need assistance."

Shahaf adds that he agreed to one caveat on his independent authority: "The IDF decides when to release the findings." The pair did not get a formal assignment from the army to carry out the task, because of legal complications, Shahaf adds.

Five days after the meeting with Samia, the first re-enactment was staged at the IDF firing range. As the scene was re-enacted, Duriel gave an interview to the American television crew. He expounded his thesis in front of the "60 Minutes" camera. Al-Dura's death was staged with the aim of producing an image which would become a symbol and besmirch Israel's reputation around the world. Actors in the staged incident included Palestinian gunmen, a French television cameraman (who received "production instructions"), and the father Jamal al Dura ("who apparently didn't understand that the act would end in the murder of his son"). Duriel mentioned that the father can be seen gesturing to the photographer in the film.

When Samia learned about Duriel's interview, he ordered that the engineer be removed from the inquiry.

Shahaf says "I supported Duriel, but I think he made a tactical error, because you have to prove whatever you allege."

Shahaf prodded ahead with the investigation, without his estranged partner. More tests were arranged - tests Shahaf stresses were done with exacting scientific rigor. "All results will meet the standards of scientific inquiry," he says. He says that he already has final results in hand that are "very interesting."

Asked about the professional character of this al-Dura shooting investigation, and about the participants who have taken part in it, the IDF spokesman refused to comment.

Shahaf says he has promised not to divulge details, neither about the results of the investigation, nor the testing procedures followed.

Despite the physicist's reticence, the work methods seem puzzling. During the first re-enactment, the distance between the IDF "position" (the dirt embankment upon which the soldiers stood) and the replicated barrel was only half of that separating the real IDF position and the Duras at Netzarim.

Duriel says additional re-enactments were staged to rectify this distance issue.

Did ballistics experts take part in the tests?

Shahaf concedes he is no authority on ballistics - however, he says, "as a physicist I read scientific material, both theoretical and experimental, and try to consult with several experts in this area, and so I have basically finished all the stages necessary in learning this topic."

Yossi Almog, a retired senior police officer who specialized in evidence-gathering, says: "I don't believe the IDF would release a conclusion revising a previous declaration without first conducting a thorough examination, using the best professionals in the security establishment. I wouldn't rely on an approach made by some anonymous person. I might welcome that person's initiative, but I certainly wouldn't accept his conclusions without conducting a systematic, orderly examination, under the best possible conditions. Anything less than that isn't serious."

In Shahaf's view, "the fact that the [investigation] committee is impartial and the IDF doesn't interfere in its work, is an advantage. When the need arises, I turn to all sorts of authorities to get feedback. Any decision about whom to consult is my own. Under the Manhattan Project - which developed the atom bomb - a scientist was used to lead the effort, and from the moment he was selected , he chose people to help as he saw fit. Choosing 20 people in advance to investigate the matter wouldn't be prudent. Somebody who has sufficient knowledge and scientific experience should be chosen at the outset, and then that person should select consultants as he sees fit."

Shahaf continues: "If you don't want the committee to make any headway, then you should appoint a hundred people instead of three."

Among other consultants, Shahaf sought out Yitzhak Ramon, an engineer from Haifa who published a letter in Ha'aretz claiming that the films provide evidence the bullets which struck the father and son weren't fired from the IDF post. Had the shots been fired by the IDF soldiers who were positioned to the side of the Duras, the bullet holes in the wall couldn't have been so circular and "clean," Ramon contended.

Charles Enderlin, director of France 2's Israel bureau, raises additional questions concerning the methodology of the IDF inquiry. French television has original footage shot at Netzarim - the film has been shown to Ha'aretz, and it includes shots of what happened at the junction before and after al Dura's death, as well as photographs of the wall and the bullet-ridden concrete barrel taken after the incident, and an interview with the father from a Gaza hospital. This is evidence which is crucial in any investigation of the al Dura death.

Shahaf asked Enderlin for permission to use the material, but he didn't mention that his intention was to conduct a professional investigation of the event. Instead, Shahaf presented himself as a media professional. In a fax to Enderlin, Shahaf wrote that he wanted the full, unedited version of the footage since the film would "enhance the understanding of the background and atmosphere which preceded the killing of the Palestinian boy."

Shahaf added in the fax that "since the material is likely to be presented to professional media forums, including film schools, we need the full footage, including pictures that are hard to look at, including gunshot wounds and the like." Enderlin rejected Shahaf's request.

Subsequently he was stunned to discover that Shahaf is affiliated with an IDF investigation. He says when the IDF spokesman later phoned and asked to receive the film materials, France 2 said they would be released only under formal court order.

Duriel is angry with the IDF. He can't fathom why the army isn't "publishing the truth."

Each day that goes by, he says, increases the damage to Israel's name.

He hints that the IDF has an interest in holding back the disclosure of the investigation's findings. He also suggests that the IDF has kept concealed from the public a crucial fact - next to the father and son, he claims, there was a second site from which Palestinians fired at the IDF. On Duriel's calculations, the bullets which killed Mohammed al Dura had to have been fired from this second Palestinian position.

Asked why the IDF is keeping secret crucial facts which would apparently exonerate its soldiers, Duriel is evasive. "The answer is explosive," he says, refusing to elaborate.

The IDF has to decide when and how it will release the investigation's results. The army tried to stir some interest among some American journalists in the findings, but the attempt backfired - the professionals were not impressed by what they heard and decided not to use it.

In choosing Shahaf and Duriel as partners in the al Dura inquiry, the IDF has again shot itself in the foot. Even if the investigation and its conclusions should pass muster on scientific and professional grounds, they simply won't be accepted by the public.

That might make little scientific sense - but it's a hard public-relations fact.

Duriel's ill-conceived "60 Minutes" interview was a case in point. The police officer, Yossi Almog, put it best: "If you want to release some conclusion that carries weight, it is important that the investigation be carried out by the most professional staff the state can put together."

Why, then, did the IDF decide to involve Shahaf in its professional review? The IDF spokesman just refuses to relate to questions of this sort. child, and made sure he would be killed in front of cameras; and after the boy, they killed.

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Filmed on 30 september 2000 by a France2TV camerman and broadcast to a shocked and horrfied world public, the 45 minute ordeal of the terrified Palestinian boy, ended only when he was killed and his father gravely wounded by a final burst of gunfire, was the worst public relations disaster for Jews in recorded history and abruptly ended the 53 year "special case" status of Israel.


1 Posted on 11/07/2000 01:36:45 PST by Arky
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To: Arky

My neighbor's grandfather lost his big home to Israelis in 1948. He had worked hard to buy the home, he was an educated, Christian, professional man. He and his wife were allowed to leave with only two suitcases, and none of the wealth they had worked to build, only two suitcases. They came to the USA to live with relatives. Their home was turned into an Israeli library, and is used for that purpose to this day. They were never given payment for their house that they built, that the Israelis took. Their family is still angry with Israelis. Comments?

2 Posted on 11/07/2000 01:50:15 PST by buffyt (~~ Liars No More! ~~ No More Clinton Gore! ~~)
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To: buffyt

Forgot to mention that my neighbor's family is Jordanian.

3 Posted on 11/07/2000 01:51:11 PST by buffyt
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To: Arky

I just realized what's wrong with these pictures---

Regardless of where the fire came from, the least exposed position is in the corner formed by the barrel & the wall, which is where the adult is!
Anyone trying to protect the child would instinctively jam the kid in the corner & cover him with his own body-- what gives here? Panic-- or maliciousness?

4 Posted on 11/07/2000 02:39:59 PST by backhoe
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To: Arky

Interesting that the article never gets around to how the re-enactment flopped! No mention that the camara blured and vibrated in time with the shots that hit the kid, nor that the camara recorded the sounds of the gunfire clearly when the Israeli position was so far away that It did not record those shots. Also never mentioned that when the first spray of bullets landed next to the dad and kid the dad naturaly looked at the source of the bullets, the camara position.

So, I guess there is a lot of spin control on the situation now that the palestinians are implicated in shooting their own for another photo-op.

5 Posted on 11/07/2000 03:21:48 PST by American in Israel
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To: buffyt

If your neighbor's family is Jordanian, then you should bear in mind that Jordan attacked Israel on it's first day of modern-nationhood. Jordan and other nations initiatied a war which they lost.
Jordan is a large country with plenty of barren land just waiting for some industrious people to take care of it.

6 Posted on 11/07/2000 05:52:55 PST by jonatron
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To: Arky

This post is long on propaganda (Arabprop) and short on relevant facts.
How exactly did the enactment constitute "shooting themselves in the foot"?

7 Posted on 11/07/2000 06:08:40 PST by Publius6961
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To: buffyt

Here is a comment on your post:

My wife's family fled Egypt with one suitcase each in 1956 during the Suez war after her father was twice arrested for being an Isreali spy (he wasn't). His family had lived in Egypt for 800 years. They left behind a palace on the Mediterranean in Alexandria and the only steel mill in the Middle East. They arrived in the U.S. with the clothes they could carry. They were never compensated one cent by the Egyptian government for their home, their possessions, or most importantly the steel mill. Her father worked a few years in the U.S. as a draftsman, and then passed away.

The refugees and the personal losses were a two way street. More people were forced to leave Arab countries than Arabs who left (most were not forced to leave) what is now Israel (800,000 vs 550,00). In terms of lost wealth, the Jews from Arab countries lost much more than the Arabs that left Israel.

The biggest difference, though, is that the various Jewish agencies rapidly resettled the Jewish refugees, while the Arabs have kept the Palestinians in refugee camps where they would become the festering sore of the Middle East.

8 Posted on 11/07/2000 06:57:32 PST by Magician
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Bingo, my friend.

BTW this article is crap from beginning to end. Did Clownton write it?

9 Posted on 11/07/2000 07:06:24 PST by justshutupandtakeit
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To: All/American in Israel/jonatron/backhoe/justshutupandtakeit/Publius6961/mykid'smom

"Assuming that the damage to Israel's reputation was irreversible, and knowing it faced the realities of more children dying, the IDF was inclined to put the al Dura matter to rest."

Israel didn't initially admit that IDF bullets killed the boy. On the contrary, the first "explanation" was that he and his father had been caught in a crossfire and Israeli Cabinet Secretary, Yitzhak Herzog, told reporters "if Palestinian policemen had wanted to save the boy, they could have walked into the square, said 'Stop the fire'...and rescued the kid" [BBC quote] while other Israeli officials questioned whether the boy was killed by Israeli bullets and said he could have been hit by stray Palestinian gunfire and the following "crossfire" photo/graphic was published.

However, those efforts to buttress the initial "explanation" did not account for the 45 minute duration of the boy's terrifying ordeal, the shooting death of an ambulance attendant while he was trying to aid the boy and his father and the wounding of the ambulance driver or comment on whether the IDF soldiers and witnesses had been interviewed, etc.

On 2 October 2000, the Los Angeles Times reported that Maj. Gen. Yom-tov Samia, head of military forces in the southern region that includes Gaza, told Israeli radio the shooting was "under investigation". The next day the Associated Press reported that Israeli army chief of operations, Giora Eiland, told Israel radio "We conducted an investigation ... and as far as we understand, the shots were apparently fired by Israeli soldiers.", effectively dumping the original crossfire "explanation".

A worldwide pro Israeli propaganda blitz immediately followed, including here in FreeRepublic, in an all out effort to demonize not only the parents of that Palestinian boy but the parents of all Palestinian children killed and wounded by Israeli gunfire.

Notably lacking in the pro Israeli propaganda is any reference to what that original investigation by Israel would most likely have included that led to that announcement by General Samia.

Yet, it's obvious that the investigation would have included [1] interviewing the IDF soldiers involved and [2] an examination of the shooting scene.

Which raises a glaringly apparent question: Did an IDF soldier admit firing the final lethal burst of gunfire?

If so, the inspection of the scene would still have been conducted to determine whether the bullets in the wall were indeed of Israeli origin - which would have required the removal of the bullets from the wall for expert analysis.

It's self evident that the government of Israel knew the gravity of the situation from the outset because of the spontaneous outrage of the worldwide public and the immediate demands for an independent War Crimes investigation.

The intensive cross examination of the Los Angeles Police Department forensic experts during the Simpson murder trial dramatized the importance of preserving physical evidence.

Yet, the wall was reportedly destroyed after that high level Israeli investigation of the killing of the Palestinian boy - and prior to Shahaf and Duriel visiting the scene.

Aside from the question of whether Shahaf and Duriel were really qualified by experience and training for the role they attempted to assume and the indication that the wall was demolished before their arrival onscene, is the question of whether the methods they employed were professional - or intentionally deceitful. The Ha'aretz article put it as follows:

"Despite the physicist's reticence, the work methods seem puzzling. During the first re-enactment, the distance between the IDF "position" (the dirt embankment upon which the soldiers stood) and the replicated barrel was only half of that separating the real IDF position and the Duras at Netzarim."

Elsewhere the Ha'aretz article states: "Asked about the professional character of this al-Dura shooting investigation, and about the participants who have taken part in it, the IDF spokesman refused to comment."

Does any objective observer really wonder why?

Ha'aretz: "In choosing Shahaf and Duriel as partners in the al Dura inquiry, the IDF has again shot itself in the foot."

10 Posted on 11/07/2000 12:54:13 PST by Arky
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If so, the inspection of the scene would still have been conducted to determine whether the bullets in the wall were indeed of Israeli origin - which would have required the removal of the bullets from the wall for expert analysis.

If you are not aware that the nature of the bullet in inconclusive, you are either naive, ignorant or gullible, or all three.
It is common knowledge that in any conflict, the arms of both sides can be used by anyone. That's the nature of war, confusion and uncertainty.
Think about it. Would you conclude that if expert analysis of the bullets determined that they were of bulgarian origin, that a bulgarian was participating in the 45 minute firefight?

11 Posted on 11/07/2000 13:23:43 PST by Publius6961
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If so, the inspection of the scene would still have been conducted to determine whether the bullets in the wall were indeed of Israeli origin - which would have required the removal of the bullets from the wall for expert analysis.

If you are not aware that the nature of the bullet in inconclusive, you are either naive, ignorant or gullible, or all three.
It is common knowledge that in any conflict, the arms of both sides can be used by anyone. That's the nature of war, confusion and uncertainty.
Think about it. Would you conclude that if expert analysis of the bullets determined that they were of bulgarian origin, that a bulgarian was participating in the 45 minute firefight?

12 Posted on 11/07/2000 13:24:48 PST by Publius6961
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Are you contending that experts cannot determine if the bullets in the wall came from the weapons used in the IDF stronghold?

The undeniable reality is that Israel officially admitted the boy was killed by IDF gunfire, has never officially denied it since then and you are not an official spokesperson for Israel.

Israel has been in deep road apples since the killing and it's getting worse, much worse, not better. The following is from Ha'aretz today:

"Chief of Staff Shaul Mofaz told the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee yesterday that the team looking into the circumstances of the death of 12-year-old Mohammed al Dura at the Netzarim junction was put together at the initiative of GOC Southern Command Major General Yom Tov Samia and not the General Staff. Mofaz promised the members of the committee that he would look into how the decision to form the investigative committee was reached and why it had chosen to employ the particular methods it has used.

Mofaz fielded questions about the investigation into the death of al Dura after Ha'aretz reported yesterday that the IDF had staged re-enactments of the Netzarim shootout. These re-enactments, Ha'aretz reported, were initiated by two civilians, physicist Nahum Shahaf and engineer Yosef Duriel, who contacted Samia and argued that it is implausible that the boy was shot by IDF bullets. Samia appointed Shahaf to head the committee despite the fact that the physicist lacks experience in areas critical to the inquiry.

Questioning Mofaz about the committee's report, MK Ophir Pines-Paz (One Israel) said, "One gets the impression that instead of genuinely confronting this incident, the IDF has chosen to stage a fictitious re-enactment and cover up the incident by means of an inquiry with foregone conclusions and the sole purpose of which is to clear the IDF of responsibility for al Dura's death."

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The issues arising out of the killing of the terrifed Palestinian boy are wide ranging - including War Crimes.

13 Posted on 11/08/2000 12:21:56 PST by Arky
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MK Pines-Paz Says IDF Used "Fictive Re-enactment" To Try To Absolve Itself In Killing Of Boy

Foreign Affairs News Keywords: ISRAEL/IDS/PALESTINIAN
Posted on 11/07/2000 18:10:42 PST by Arky

Ha'aretz -
7 November 2000
Anat Cygielman, Ha'aretz Correspondent

IDF General Mofaz says committee investigating al Dura killing is "private initiative"

MK Pines-Paz demands IDF step aside for "more objective" investigation and says "the IDF prefers to use a fictive re-enactment and try to absolve itself of responsibility"

IDF Chief of Staff Lieutenant General Shaul Mofaz said Tuesday at the weekly cabinet meeting that a committee investigating the October 2nd killing of 12-year-old Palestinian Muhammed al Dura was not initiatied by the Chief of Staff bureau nor by Mofaz himself. Mofaz said the investigation was most likely initiated by GOC Southern Command Major General Yom Tov Samia, and that he would check the reasons for the investigation.

Mofaz answered questions posed by MK's Ophir Pines-Paz (One Israel) and Dan Meridor (Center Party) following the publication of an article in Ha'aretz on Tuesday critical of the way the incident was being investigated. Meridor stated that the appointment of the committee heads and the committee's management were a result of poor judgment from its supervisors.

Pines-Paz demanded that the IDF relinquish direction of the investigation so that a more objective body could lead it. "It seems that instead of facing the situation and taking responsibility, the IDF prefers to use a fictive re-enactment and try to absolve itself of responsibility," he said.

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fic·tive (fktv)
Of, relating to, or able to engage in imaginative invention.
Of, relating to, or being fiction; fictional.
Not genuine; sham.


1 Posted on 11/07/2000 18:10:42 PST by Arky
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